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musicals for inexperienced singers?

  • 1.  musicals for inexperienced singers?

    Posted 05-20-2016 10:19

    Hello everyone! I know there are a lot of posts asking about suggestions for musicals and I love reading them. I have not found a discussion addressing this particular aspect, but forgive me if it seems repetitive. 

    Our school is planning to do a musical next year for the first time since the opening of the school 10 years ago (they did High School Musical in 2006). While I have quite a bit of musical theatre experience in performing, this will be my first time ever directing a musical. I’m very excited but also very nervous. My primary concern at the moment is the singing. (Yeah, I know, not a good concern to have if you want to do a musical.)  Unfortunately, we have no choir program and are not likely to get one anytime soon. We are a large school and there are students with natural talent, but I don’t have anyone with any kind of training. We’ve done a little musical theatre in some of my upper level theatre classes, but not a lot. We have a fantastic band program and dance program and I have been working very hard to build the theatre program since I arrived last year (we did one production last year and two this year). Despite our lack of trained singers, my colleagues and I all feel like it’s time to take the plunge and try a musical. We’ll never know if we can do it until we try.  

    Right now we’re leaning towards “You’re a Good Man, Charlie Brown” because it’s small, simple for tech, and seems like a good “first musical.” Personally, I love the show but it’s going to be a really hard sell to both my students and my audiences so I’m trying to at least explore other options. I also have some reservations about the cast size. I need to build my program and I’m a little worried that having a cast of 6 or 7 may have the reverse effect. It may be our best bet anyway, but I’d love to hear other recommendations. What musicals have you directed and had success with in the years that you didn’t necessarily have the most stellar group of singers or didn’t know your talent pool very well ahead of time?

    Thanks!

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    Emily Olson
    Theatre Arts Teacher and Director
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  • 2.  RE: musicals for inexperienced singers?

    Posted 05-20-2016 10:33

    When we did "Charlie Brown...." we double cast the entire show. One cast did Wed/Fri and the other cast did Thur/Sat. Helps with ticket sales, too.

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    John Perry
    Drama Instructor
    Atherton High School
    Louisville KY



  • 3.  RE: musicals for inexperienced singers?

    Posted 05-20-2016 12:02

    I might suggest something like Once Upon A Mattress.  You would need a competent Lady Larkin and Sir Harry, but the rest are character voices and tons of fun. We did a super simple set with the hardest part being the tower of mattresses.  It's just a suggestion, but I would definitely look for a sizable show.  A larger show would continue to grow your theatre program and some wonderful dance numbers would allow you to feature other elements of your performance department.  

    As an aside, I am intrigued that you have a strong Band and Dance, but no choir.  

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    Amy Learn
    Ballwin MO



  • 4.  RE: musicals for inexperienced singers?

    Posted 05-21-2016 10:34

    Hi Emily,

    Building a Musical Theatre program is difficult. Our program has no feeder programs from the elementary or middle school levels so we are the first experience with Musical Theatre for our students, which means we have a lot of skill building to do with every musical. My suggestion is to select a musical with a large chorus, so that you can begin to lay a foundation with a larger group of students. Music Theatre International has several show that are geared for beginning programs in their Broadway Jr selections (Broadway Junior). You can also purchase orchestration, OrchExtra® that is can be your entire orchestra or support for the musician you need. You can work with it from the start of rehearsal so that your kids can jump right in with the learning the music for vocals and choreography. If you have an orchestra, then I have found the RehearScore®Plus a great tool for rehearsals,no need for a piano accompanist, students can have a copy of the show and you can modify the music as needed, you can even make the melody line louder so inexperienced singers can follow their part easily. However, the resources are not cheap - that is a consideration as you try to budget for a new project...

    A small show has it's advantages! It may be easier for a new group to manage. A large show has more "moving parts," but it also gives you more to build with for the next year - also more audience :). Either way my suggestion is to give yourselves extra time, it is better to feel over prepared and confident than to feel under-prepared and end up with a negative experience. 

    Good Luck to you and your students!!!!

    My suggestion is HONK! Jr. Lots of resources are available, the cast can be small or large, not a lot of complicated choreography and the sets can be minimal or elaborate, the costumes can be quirky or simple.

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  • 5.  RE: musicals for inexperienced singers?

    Posted 05-21-2016 12:26

    All i Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten

    No real set, simple costumes, a few solos for your singers, otherwise simple choral work, no real need for an orchestra.

    Back to the 80s.

     It's all 80s music.  So much fun!   Again, give your singers the solos and lead roles, everyone else is in chorus.  No set, unless you want one.  My kids had a blast coming up with their own 80s costumes and makeup.

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    Jennifer Miguel
    Franklin VA



  • 6.  RE: musicals for inexperienced singers?

    Posted 05-23-2016 13:13

    Hi -  I started the Theatre program at my school and was in this very position. Last year when I retired after eight years, I was blessed to hand over a beautifully packaged department that had grown immensely and continues to grow! 

    I would strongly suggest using MTI's Junior version. Dear Edwina and Honk were two of our first Junior musicals.

    Dear Edwina is a little known off Broadway show and can be done with a small  or large cast. We chose large because we were building a program/department. It really is adorable and the songs don't require super strong singers. Costumes are very easy and very simple set. 

    Honk is also great and I would do again in a heartbeat. Although they are animals, costumes can be clothing the color of that animal & a hat. The set requires a little more than Edwina. 

    Both musicals are fun, easy, and great intro musicals. They're also musicals elementary students will enjoy and that's always a great selling point! 

    I have pics from both if you'd like to see them. I'd also be happy to answer any questions about the shows or about building a theater program. 

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    Connie Sandoz
    Waxahachie, TX
    Retired Theatre Director
    Henderson, NV



  • 7.  RE: musicals for inexperienced singers?

    Posted 05-22-2016 13:55

    I think the music for Charlie Brown is hard to sing.  It is not familiar and the tunes are not "catchy or memorable"  If I were you, I would choose a musical that you love.  Maybe even one that you did yourself when you were in high school.  Is there a voice teacher in town that would volunteer her talents to help you?  Or a parent with a passion for music that can help?  I am a voice teacher, and I have volunteered helping with musicals for years.  The plus for me, is that I picked up a few private students after volunteering, plus, I like to do community service.

    If you choose a high school musical from Musical Theater International, they offer some nice helps.  I do not know if they allow high schools to do the Junior show, but that would be a nice way to start. I agree with "Once Upon a Mattress"  Cute show and lots of kids can participate.  You can find 2 leads that can sing for sure.  Look at the list on Musical Theater International and I bet something will just pop out at you.  I would not double cast anything, that is double the work.  "Bye Bye Birdie" is also a great show for teens, but it is not MTI.

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    Get help from parents after you have cast.  I suggest that you have a committee of 3 to help you with the casting.  Not parents, but other teachers or people from the community that you know are musical or go to the theater often.  You have the final say on the cast, but in the end, if parents complain, you can say that the committee helped with the casting. 

    My biggest suggestion is to get help from anyone who is willing to help with singing and dancing.  Call the local dance studio and ask if any students can help you.  It looks great on their resume for college.  Usually the best dancers dance 5 nights a week, but there might be another dancer or teacher willing to help you.  Get the word out that you need volunteers.  There might even be a teacher at your school how danced up a storm in high school and can do the choreography for you.  At our local high school the special ed teacher does the choreography for all the musicals and she LOVES doing it.  

    You can do it.  Email me if I can help with questions.  I am in France on a mission, but I have lots of experience. CorinneWalk4@gmail.com

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    Corinne Walker
    Lyon, France



  • 8.  RE: musicals for inexperienced singers?

    Posted 05-23-2016 07:40

    I would think more about finding the cast to fit the parts for the musical you would like to do-- not so much that you pre-cast the musical-- I would never do that-- but do you have within your school likely candidates for the roles you need filled?

    That being said, a lot of musicals can be simplified, so in that sense, I wouldn't worry about the experience too much-- rather "do I have the cast for this show".

    Charlie Brown is pretty simple, but difficult to sing.  The simplicity of the show might allow you to focus on vocal work as well.  The Addams Family, also comes to mind as pretty simple-- albeit technically pretty demanding--- can be a lot of fun, too-- with a large ensemble of ancestors.

    Good luck finding a show you are passionate about.

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    Michael Johnson
    Trinity NC



  • 9.  RE: musicals for inexperienced singers?

    Posted 05-23-2016 09:34

    We have ended up with very inexperienced singers in the courses that meet together to do the musical twice in the past few years.  Both times, we had to drop the more difficult show we planned to do and find something less challenging vocally.

    The first time, we did "Back to the 80's."  MTI has the rights.  We ended up having a fabulous time with it.  

    This year, faced with a place on the master schedule that didn't allow most of the experienced singers and Thespians into the class, we had to shelf "Fiddler on the Roof."  

    We replaced it with "Changing Minds," which I found out about on this forum.  The students who were looking forward to a better known musical were disappointed initially, but all agreed that it matched the raw talent (and lack of practical experience) in the cast, and they had a great time with it.  We had 40 students on stage, but it could be done with far less.  There are lots of smaller parts, and you really only need two people with real acting chops to play the two leads.  

    Although we did the show with live accompaniment, there is a digital option.  

    One bit of warning about the recorded tracks for "Changing Minds"--they cannot be loaded onto Chromebooks, which is what all of our students have.  We wasted the money paying for that option.

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    C. J. Breland
    Asheville High School
    Asheville NC



  • 10.  RE: musicals for inexperienced singers?

    Posted 05-23-2016 10:52

    Pioneer Drama has some easy musicals with good musical support. I did their "Luann" based on the comic strip's early days. It was very successful for a first musical for me. Voice ranges are small, and there is only one song that has parts.

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    Ellen Di Filippo
    Tracy CA



  • 11.  RE: musicals for inexperienced singers?

    Posted 05-24-2016 17:01

    Thank you all so much! I appreciate all the ideas and advice. You have given me a lot of great things to think about and consider. Thanks!

    Amy, I agree! I think it is really odd that we don't have a choir program. I've always thought that of all the arts choir would probably be one of the cheapest programs to maintain, thereby making it the easiest of most attractive option for most schools, but sadly, not for us. 

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    Emily Olson
    Theatre Arts Teacher and Director
    Port St. Lucie, FL